Should Christians go to war?

Christians believe that the bible is God’s word and that sin is a transgression of God’s law. God’s law is the 10 Commandments (Exodus 20). The 6th Commandment tells us that as Christians we will not kill, and thus the challenge for Christians during war time is born. Historically SDAs have been known as “conscientious objectors”, opposed to killing, war and violence. Some members take this stance further to include not “bearing arms” (not carrying a gun or other weapon of war), to avoid the possible temptation of killing. Others go further still to say that being in the war effort at all (even without a weapon, keeping all of the Commandments) is supporting wrong and is a sin. Debate has arisen over the past 150 years and still continues today, as to whether or not a Christian can choose to join the army, navy or air force, either of his / her own free will or if forced with conscription. Is it biblical to choose prison or death over compliance if conscripted? These moral dilemmas have been faced by many faithful Christians, and it is my prayer that this article may lead you to more prayerful study about this heavily debated topic. The following is an historical account of the German SDA church’s response to World War 1 and the split that followed.

I will start by saying, if you are not an Adventist, the church politics on this matter are basically irrelevant to you, which is why I will only very briefly cover this (feel free to skip down to the Testimony 1 and 2 links).  I believe the links I give after will help both Adventists and non-Adventists alike to understand the dilemmas brought about in war time, also to show some amazing testimonies of faithful individuals who were helped by God during World War 2.

For Adventists who wish to have a clear understanding of this issue, I recommend continuing through the resources posted after.
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To begin, it is important to understand my reasons for posting this article.  I personally believe that the SDA church badly needs help, and I believe that help can come from members of the SDARM / IMSSDARM rejoining the fight for truth in the church.  I don’t necessarily agree with all the doctrines of either the SDARM or IMSSDARM, however I believe they and the SDA church are in unity on vital doctrines. In my opinion the SDA church needs more conscientious individuals to help spread the message of truth across the world.  I believe many have been discouraged and driven into the Reform or Independent movements. My hope is that this division will end, so we can all get back to work spreading the 3 angels’ messages to the world.  It seems an impossible dream to fulfil, however Christ prayed a similar prayer. I believe His power to bring unity and reform will prevail.

I am not in favour of ecumenism, however I believe there are insignificant differences between the SDA, SDARM, IMSSDARM and Independent SDA groups to justify separation.   One of these differences (sometimes the only difference some people see) is the matter of whether Christians should go to war.

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Pope Francis calls for unity. Incredible speech. Prophecy is being fulfilled.

I wasn’t sure how this could happen, but now I see the prophecies closing in.  We are seeing a major fulfilment of prophecy here.

“The people of the United States have been a favored people; but when they restrict religious liberty, surrender Protestantism, and give countenance to popery, the measure of their guilt will be full, and ‘national apostasy’ will be registered in the books of heaven. The result of this apostasy will be national ruin.” –Maranatha, p. 216.

I saw that God has honest children among the nominal Adventists and the fallen churches, and before the plagues shall be poured out, ministers and people will be called out from these churches and will gladly receive the truth. Satan knows this; and before the loud cry of the third angel is given, he raises an excitement in these religious bodies, that those who have rejected the truth may think that God is with them. He hopes to deceive the honest and lead them to think that God is still working for the churches. But the light will shine, and all who are honest will leave the fallen churches, and take their stand with the remnant. {EW 261.1}

This my friend is the most impressive use of a straw man argument in the history of humanity, and I think the world will lap it up.  Probation is most certainly getting ready to close.  Examine your hearts, the next road is going to be a bumpy one.

If this makes you afraid and you think “I’m not ready”.

By sin we have been severed from the life of God. Our souls are palsied. Of ourselves we are no more capable of living a holy life than was the impotent man capable of walking. Many realize their helplessness; they are longing for that spiritual life which will bring them into harmony with God, and are striving to obtain it. But in vain. In despair they cry, “O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from this body of death?” Romans 7:24, margin. Let these desponding, struggling ones look up. The Saviour is bending over the purchase of His blood, saying with inexpressible tenderness and pity, “Wilt thou be made whole?” He bids you arise in health and peace. Do not wait to feel that you are made whole. Believe the Saviour’s word. Put your will on the side of Christ. Will to serve Him, and in acting upon His word you will receive strength. Whatever may be the evil practice, the master passion which through long indulgence binds both soul and body, Christ is able and longs to deliver. He will impart life to the soul that is “dead in trespasses.” Ephesians 2:1. He will set free the captive that is held by weakness and misfortune and the chains of sin. – {MH 84.4}

Walter Veith up on Charges in Germany

**Update 3**
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**UPDATE** Please be advized that Amazing Discoveries is issuing an official statement and full details of the situation shortly. Please stay tuned. The statement will be available on our website and facebook soon. Note: Walter Veith is NOT in jail.

Thank you for your prayers. They are surely needed at this time.

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* update 2 added from the parties who are doing the suing (I do not agree with or support their statements, this is simply for your information.  Thank you to the poster)… I have added it to the end of at this article.

Please pray for Walter. While I don’t necessarily agree with him on all his theology, he certainly is not a anti-Semitic in his teaching. I am unsure on the details, beyond these two letters:

 

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Is God worse than Hitler?

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In the 1940s, the human race hailed the philosophical achievement of eugenics.
In the united states, people were routinely sterilized if they had birth defects, in an attempt to create a race free from disease.  Many atrocities were performed, but none took Darwinism more to its conclusion than Adolf Hitler.  He is often thought of as the epitome of evil… The worst of the worst, yet, even though he killed millions of Jews, and countless others, his methods for the Jews in particular, we’re oddly humane (not all of his methods, but a lot). He would march the people into a gas chamber, having them think they were going for a shower, and gassed them all.

Sure this was killing, and horrible in anyone’s language…

But let’s look at the Catholic Church.  In the 1260 years from 538 AD the Catholic Church, using some of the most horrendous torture methods that were ever invented, persecuted and killed over 100 million people.

But their inspiration was even worse. Their belief is, the being they worship, is currently torturing for eternity billions and billions of people, for the sole reason that they did not love him, or weren’t intellectually convinced of him, or maybe they just liked sin more than him.

Is it any wonder there are atheists? What I will show now, is: the God that came to die for us is not the unjust psychopath presented here, he is just and loving.

It is my purpose to vindicate God from this horrible slander that his professed church has leveled against him.

But there is the annialationism approach taught, that is equally slander.  Justice requires punishment for transgression of the law.

Let’s find out from the bible what actually happens to the wicked:

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Obama returns to office

It is not for me to comment on politics, I just found this interesting, as relating to the dream a man had back in the 80s about this.

Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

Is this a legitimate prophecy.  I don’t know.  Either way, we need to get ready, and watch and pray lest we fall.

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